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rory88
rory88
Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 9 2010, 2:40 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2010, 11:24 AM EDT
In you opinion, which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh), would make the better captain?

Even though Jake has more experience, I feel that Josh has shown more maturity. Both may make good captains in time. Phil was trying to pass on his secret fishing grounds to the boys in tonight's episode (6/8/2010), where if he laid the pots out just right (below the hill, but not on it) he could hit the bonanza. Josh was paying attention to this and will probably use similar strategies as he leads boats out in the future.

A quick note not regarding this question: I play poker every week with a bunch of guys. Usually the TV is on with some sort of sports (in the background). Last week as I was sitting out a hand, I flipped to the Deadliest Catch.To my amazement every guy at the table (five of us) watch this show every week. I never knew this till last week....awesome!
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GuinnessWIWoman
GuinnessWIWoman
1. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 9 2010, 9:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2010, 9:48 AM EDT
I personally do not think either one is ready to take the helm. I think Josh should be first in line to be captain then Jake. Jake showed some signs of laziness and he seems to expect others to look after him and blames Josh for misplacing or stealing his stuff. Phil said some things in other episodes that concern me as far as him being mature enough and responsible enought to take over this boat. Jake needs a couple more years under his belt but maybe with Phil's passing it has matured him and he is ready and responsible to take over. We will just have to wait until next season to see. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
rory88
rory88
2. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 9 2010, 11:27 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2010, 11:27 AM EDT
"I personally do not think either one is ready to take the helm. I think Josh should be first in line to be captain then Jake. Jake showed some signs of laziness and he seems to expect others to look after him and blames Josh for misplacing or stealing his stuff. Phil said some things in other episodes that concern me as far as him being mature enough and responsible enought to take over this boat. Jake needs a couple more years under his belt but maybe with Phil's passing it has matured him and he is ready and responsible to take over. We will just have to wait until next season to see."
I agree with you Guinness, neither one is ready to be a captain NOW, but I feel like Josh puts more effort in and one day will make a good captain. More than likely a new captain will be given the helm of the Cornelia Marie.
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GinaKretchmar
GinaKretchmar
3. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 9 2010, 1:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2010, 1:30 PM EDT
"I agree with you Guinness, neither one is ready to be a captain NOW, but I feel like Josh puts more effort in and one day will make a good captain. More than likely a new captain will be given the helm of the Cornelia Marie."
I see Josh, he is more serious, Jake is good as well but just not there, if Josh had to especially after losing his dad this year ...if not just to make him proud, but to prove that he is worthy!!!
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dreamcather
dreamcather
4. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 10 2010, 10:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2010, 10:38 PM EDT
Definately josh...jake may have been on the boat longer he still seems not to be ready for that job.Josh being a little more mature but I dont think that either one of them is ready for the job. Do you find this valuable?    
GinaKretchmar
GinaKretchmar
5. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 11 2010, 1:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2010, 1:04 AM EDT
"Definately josh...jake may have been on the boat longer he still seems not to be ready for that job.Josh being a little more mature but I dont think that either one of them is ready for the job."
Dreamy! There you are! Jake is so close, josh is the more serious one I think, Jake can handle it though. Which makes this a really tough pick. I will have to see how the rest of the season plays out Rory!Happy to see you!
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SoCalTrophyWife
SoCalTrophyWife
6. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 16 2010, 1:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 16 2010, 1:53 PM EDT
Josh. Neither are ready, yet. But Josh is more stable and has grown more. Jake needs to start growing up, especially after what we learned last night. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
GuinnessWIWoman
GuinnessWIWoman
7. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 16 2010, 2:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 16 2010, 2:12 PM EDT
It is very sad what happened last night and I hope he is receiving the help he needs. He and Josh are both in my thoughts and prayers having an addiction is a terrible thing and I am sure Discovery is helping him get the right support. I am sure this now puts a damper on any decisions to make him captain. Do you find this valuable?    
GinaKretchmar
GinaKretchmar
8. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 16 2010, 4:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 16 2010, 4:33 PM EDT
"It is very sad what happened last night and I hope he is receiving the help he needs. He and Josh are both in my thoughts and prayers having an addiction is a terrible thing and I am sure Discovery is helping him get the right support. I am sure this now puts a damper on any decisions to make him captain. "
I agree G, it was heartbreaking to look at Phils face and the disappointment OMG! My heart broke in half for him. I hope Jake beats this for himself and for his dad(rip). Phils boys are strong hard workers, they made it out on a crabbing F/V where many many have failed!!! So I am sending my well wishes to you Jake, Josh would make a better capt, he is more together.
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rory88
rory88
9. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 16 2010, 7:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 16 2010, 7:42 PM EDT
Is it me or is Jake becoming more of a flake, goof off every episode?? Phil was ready to kick Jake's butt when he was goofing off, but when he caught him stealing his medicine.....wow!! At that point I did not want the episode to end, because I wanted to see what happened next. Oh well, next week should be real, real interesting. Anyway my point is this, Jake is not even close to captain material now. He may or may not be able to kick his addiction and this will certainly put him behind the eight-ball for a while. Do you find this valuable?    
GinaKretchmar
GinaKretchmar
10. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 16 2010, 8:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 16 2010, 8:30 PM EDT
"Is it me or is Jake becoming more of a flake, goof off every episode?? Phil was ready to kick Jake's butt when he was goofing off, but when he caught him stealing his medicine.....wow!! At that point I did not want the episode to end, because I wanted to see what happened next. Oh well, next week should be real, real interesting. Anyway my point is this, Jake is not even close to captain material now. He may or may not be able to kick his addiction and this will certainly put him behind the eight-ball for a while."
Oh hell yes it will! When he fell into tank I thought Phil was going to call him on it right there but he didnt he just thought he was goofy, no he was high. Definatly needs to be on his best behavior now!
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rory88
rory88
11. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 22 2010, 10:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 22 2010, 10:54 PM EDT
Gina, as predicted the show tonight was one of the best. Phil forgave Jake, right after he said he didn't want anything to do with him anymore for stealing his pain pills. When Jake admitted to being addicted, Phil was flabbergasted! He was ready to send Jake right to treatment and be by his side to see him through. But at the end of the episode when Phil had his stroke, you gotta wonder if Jake will actually go to the clinic. Also when Phil had the stroke, Josh showed his maturity and was ready to do whatever it took to do the right thing for the Cornelia Marie. He was taking charge. Yes, Josh will definitely make a good captain. Do you find this valuable?    
GinaKretchmar
GinaKretchmar
12. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 22 2010, 11:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 22 2010, 11:08 PM EDT
"Gina, as predicted the show tonight was one of the best. Phil forgave Jake, right after he said he didn't want anything to do with him anymore for stealing his pain pills. When Jake admitted to being addicted, Phil was flabbergasted! He was ready to send Jake right to treatment and be by his side to see him through. But at the end of the episode when Phil had his stroke, you gotta wonder if Jake will actually go to the clinic. Also when Phil had the stroke, Josh showed his maturity and was ready to do whatever it took to do the right thing for the Cornelia Marie. He was taking charge. Yes, Josh will definitely make a good captain. "
I am so proud of Josh for standing up and doing what he should do! Jake will be good as well he just has a little maturing to do which if losing his dad doesnt shake him into it ...I really dont know what will...next season will be the one to watch! Thanks Rory! hope all is well!!
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Silvie75
Silvie75
13. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 22 2010, 11:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 22 2010, 11:45 PM EDT
Defintly JOSH!!!
Jake has not right as he is an addict! He drove Capt. Phil to his grave!
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GuinnessWIWoman
GuinnessWIWoman
14. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 23 2010, 9:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2010, 9:58 AM EDT
"Defintly JOSH!!!
Jake has not right as he is an addict! He drove Capt. Phil to his grave!"
That's a little harsh thing too say, I am sure it did not help Phil but there were other factors besides Jake's addiction.
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ChamberDoc
15. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 23 2010, 11:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2010, 11:25 AM EDT
"I am so proud of Josh for standing up and doing what he should do! Jake will be good as well he just has a little maturing to do which if losing his dad doesnt shake him into it ...I really dont know what will...next season will be the one to watch! Thanks Rory! hope all is well!!"
Jake has the experience, but Josh has the maturity. Jake is out of the picture until this addiction thing is cleared up. He might be made captain, but he wouldn't have a crew - I think they'd all revolt. The big problem is that the two heirs apparent are also the most junior, inexperienced men on the boat. I don't envy his partner, Cornelia.
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GuinnessWIWoman
GuinnessWIWoman
16. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 23 2010, 12:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2010, 12:29 PM EDT
John wants his son to take over the boat but he knows Scott needs to have 5-7 years of being on the boat year round to take over. The Hillstrands know they can not just hand the boat over to just anyone that is why they are trusting Mike Fourtner. I know the Harris brothers can do it but they need Steve Ward, Murray and other deckhands, engineers etc. to help them learn everything about the boat, and all the other responsiblities of the business. These things take time I can't imagine those boys out there on their own next season without more training. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
GinaKretchmar
GinaKretchmar
17. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 23 2010, 1:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2010, 1:12 PM EDT
"Defintly JOSH!!!
Jake has not right as he is an addict! He drove Capt. Phil to his grave!"
That is way harsh...I am sure not a minute goes by without that running through poor Jakes head, Phil was not in the best of health and it happened, probably not at the best time but all my love goes out to those biys, they lost their dad and we lost our beloved Phil!(rip)
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Silvie75
Silvie75
18. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 24 2010, 1:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2010, 1:42 PM EDT
"That is way harsh...I am sure not a minute goes by without that running through poor Jakes head, Phil was not in the best of health and it happened, probably not at the best time but all my love goes out to those biys, they lost their dad and we lost our beloved Phil!(rip)"
i know im harsh with my comment............but hell Jake knew about the health problems that his father had!! Now if he was an addict prior to all this stuff happening to our beloved Capt. Phil, i will still blame that fact that Jake did not take in account how this will affect his father. And now his brother and hole family, don't you guys even think how horrible is to find out that a love one is an addict when it is broadcast in National TV!!
that is why im harsh with Jake!
As to Josh, he is lovely like his dad!!!
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GinaKretchmar
GinaKretchmar
19. RE: Which of Phil's sons (Jake or Josh) would make a better captain?
Jun 24 2010, 2:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2010, 2:22 PM EDT
"i know im harsh with my comment............but hell Jake knew about the health problems that his father had!! Now if he was an addict prior to all this stuff happening to our beloved Capt. Phil, i will still blame that fact that Jake did not take in account how this will affect his father. And now his brother and hole family, don't you guys even think how horrible is to find out that a love one is an addict when it is broadcast in National TV!!
that is why im harsh with Jake!
As to Josh, he is lovely like his dad!!!"
I think jake is young and did not fathom the effect it would have on his dad. He thought his father was better...had a bad back but I think the little boy in Jake was seeing his dad as that invincable big teddy bear and did not plan an getting caught taking the pills. When it did happen , Jake had to come clean to Phil and I think Jake was in such a bad place mentally that he did not realize Phil would get so sick. And who knows Phil was not in good health and really wanted to fish, he probably shouldnt have been on the CM but he went out with his boys(bad situation or not) and at sea! It is a terrible way to find out a family member is an addict but really....what way is a good way???
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